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The Piódão Group is more than a brand of carpets it wants to climb higher, is mainly aimed at creating decorative products that inspire passion and convenience to their customers. A visionary concept for now shared by the manager, Pedro Pacheco and Marketing Director, Luis Nascimento.

How it starts Piódão Group?
Pedro Pacheco: Starts with a carpet factory. After the death of one of the managing partners, the family of one of them took the whole company and for 10 years has been a production factory. At the end of that time, with changes in international market we began to realize that having production was not enough to have competitive prices. Therefore, there was a bet on the design, it was necessary to retain customers in a more visible way. You needed a brand that had a beautiful and appealing product that substantiate, that could be defended in terms of marketing and image and generate loyalty. Since 1995 , we started to think about making a serious investment in design , 3 years ago there was a brand which did not leave the anonymity that was the "pad designers " , a kind of experience to learn how to do or not and catalogs, then from one point on when we started to have the most appropriate instruments , met a group of people provided trainees with some potential who were learning , people from the area of design and marketing that were able to define and build a small collection of design and that's how things started .

But in 1995 you created a partnership with a German company.
PP: It's more complicated than that, the German company is the genesis of the creation of this company, when the factory appeared in 1992, the new owner was faced with the opportunity of these Germans who said if produce carpets for a certain price we bought it. They are the "Brown Collection " , later as a matter of strategic partnership entered the company with 10 % of the capital and were our primary distributor for Germanophiles countries . A contract that able us to be the exclusive producers and sellers of "Rolf Benz ". It is a powerful brand of the highest level; I can say that the carpets that leave the factory at a given price, they arrived to Portugal, via Rolf Benz importer and store eight times the price without taxes. But the reality is that this partnership in practice assured us for some time 70 % of production. In terms of design, the collaboration with these customers has enabled a production capacity foolproof in terms of quality, service and know-how that this was guaranteed for a long time. We now have all this fantastic skill that no one in Europe had and that we should do with it? I think it was this whole confluence of factors that created the conditions for a collection that appeared. It was a natural process of evolution of the market and the company itself, was a little visionary, but if we think about it quite logical. Our customers are responsible for being able to develop the "know-how", but that has nothing to do with our decision to invest in the design, which was decided by the company.

Let's talk about the collections, how it works the whole process of choosing the designers? How you make that selection? Associate certain artistic component with the products?
Luis Nascimento: Sometimes it happens that there is a designer who wants to launch a carpet, which is a lot and then we feel if it has potential or not. Recently we include carpets fleeing a bit of the line team. We do not just went ahead with our projects, but also with some that appear on the practically extemporaneously.

PP: You know to me it seems more important to have a design function within the company, have a dynamic, i.e., from the moment we are familiar with its implementation becomes a natural process. That sort of thing becomes more complicated for who is out and I will not say that it is simpler, but it is more diluted. It is hard for me as a manager of a brand of a company to have to do it , because everything is ready , the industry is based on custom drawing and worked with when design does not become more complicated , to say that we are going to make these drawings on the rugs more times. In contrast, from a certain point, this willingness to work with a designer is also something natural, we can make a different carpet every month, means that we know people from our surroundings, when they appear are predisposed to work with us, do a proposal, there is a certain confidence, we reached an agreement, we give all our contributions and make a prototype. If we do not have the designer, we tried one, sometimes, we do it. The initiative is that it is the critical part, but the process for us is so natural, so fluid that once triggered the flame burns everything with passion. It is not complicated you need to know to manage in terms of market, sometimes the drawings we like cannot be manufactured , other times are fantastic and the answer is simple , there is a whole dynamic that involves the designer .

LN: In those cases where we dominated the market's knowledge, we call the designer to introduce another planking, to assess trends. Invite designer also to determine a conductive line that will have an increase brand value, if we invite one Philip Stark have a different visibility. The aim is also to create lines that are commercial , working on orders ensures us a particular job and an interesting billing , but it's not collection that will allow me to say that I'm selling carpets in 20 stores in Spain , 40 shops in Paris . You must be a commercial for this and sought to engage a designer in fashion trends as a stylist launches a collection every season; carpets also follow this philosophy as it is decorative and adds comfort. We have the most classic to those who will be inspire more in design , with hotlines and a designer helps us to frame each of the products that they are doing and find markets , is a creative process , but also democratic.

PP: There are also other synergies here. The brand helps sell the service from the customer , because if they ask to change the color , we can personalize this product and suddenly the person bets on a " flower" , it is a very strong piece for a room , i.e. , they will buy entirely different products . At ride of the brand, we sell the service and the carpets made on that basis. We work with a range of elements of which one is the design and when it is good, the epitome; it is to provide an involvement, an authenticity to the brand that is much bigger than just selling carpets.

The Piódão Group is a sustainable brand, how you exercise this sustainability in production?
LN: Our rugs are all 100 % recyclable, the wool being a natural product.

PP: First we are working in Europe and restrictions on environmentally is not as small as that. In terms of products, they are fully degradable. If the latex is involved in moisture breaks down and after a time disappears. The tape is made of cotton and polyester is there and there punctually at the edges. In terms of sustainability has to do with something else, has to do with the reuse of services, we have mandatorily fixed portions of wool, because the dye does not produce exact quantities, if any error, we however always order more. What happens? Imagine, a loom backrest only occupies a part and what we do in the empty part? Nothing we do the carpet, cut it and is left a small area. These leftovers go to waste in a normal situation when they cannot be exploited for carpets, the secret is to invest in two areas, first in the Collection pre - to-wear with small parts, small rugs in the free space that is adjacent to the finished carpets, we use thus color remnants to make such carpets. The only new element here is that using the latex, because it allows us to improvise an empty space that was going to waste, the scraps left over from other carpets, is the total reuse of elements. Therefore, a third aspect that I have to mention is that our products last, are not disposable, one of our rugs can last over 15 years, having a good material and visual quality, there is a difference between buying a rug every five years and another from 10 years or more who contribute to the rationalization of resources in its entirety. Sustainability is done so through the use of waste, a demand to rationalize production based on this idea, the products themselves have no heavy metals and the question of working within a European context that require certified products that pass the scrutiny of certain institutions where all waste from dyes undergo a treatment in a plant wastewater.

Wool is 100 % national?
LN: It is imported; there is some of New Zealand and the national market. We d not have ability to do all that.

PP : Each type o wool has its own type sheep, for example, Shetland , cashmere and angora , these wool are most suitable for clothes or fashion accessories , if used on carpets not guarantee that last for 15 days, the length and the elasticity behavior of the fiber itself is completely different . The most appropriate sheep wool is from New Zealand and there is a possibility of using some variants of Australia. What happens in Portugal is that animals are different , only part of the wool can be harnessed , we have to make a selection , then pick the lock and take away the waste , then you have to make a combing in order to separate the finer filaments , the longer can be blended with wool in New Zealand. The Portuguese fibers are more elastic and smooth, the New Zealander is rougher and the two mixed allow elasticity, softness and shine. What I can say is that this fiber is fully imported; however, she is spun entirely in Portugal.

What are the best markets for rugs of Piódão Group?
LN: The Nordic and Central European markets. The more traditional rug is going to France, England, is markets where thermal comfort is important and design. By the way the wool reacts to moisture balances the home environment, contrary to what is stated that contribute to allergies, which is not true. A new market is the U.S., where there was initially great resistance of the wool and warm fibers, but in terms of this product is a great success.

What is the next goal in the short - term future of the brand?
LN: In the short term the Piódão Group is to be implemented in some markets considered new, emerging, as is the case in Eastern Europe. And consolidate some more traditional markets.

And the long - term in addition to carpets you are trying other products with wool?
LN: We have interesting ideas to make the most fashionable rugs; we brew a partnership with a national stylist, renowned and test some new materials for carpets with wood base.

PP : If we are very trendy disappear from the market, if we are just salable is a problem , we have to invest in collections that follow the trends , but also in stable products which allow a great visibility that eventually can go to the market , because fashion is cyclical. The long - term actions with designers are important, the tests also with new materials, the fiber mixture can be brought into this universe. There is another relevant aspect to reinvent the mat, i.e., the material may be used in furniture, on chairs, in the beds, the walls, the ceiling can be used in home insulation.

LN: The tufted technology from rug is a weaving technique.

PP: The difficulty here is to find the proper materials, in this case, a carpet on the wall, there is the issue of micro - organisms that be cannot clean as easily and at ease than if you were on the ground. On the other hand, we are at a time when there is an absolutely horrendous dictatorship brands if a new brand start running well, apart from the specific range, short - term and long - term there is always an open door in an organic way to go adding materials and products that are complementary. Production of carpets is not a component of home textiles, sell home furnishings and complement of carpets is a range of home textiles of a completely different nature, then some accessories, apply pieces and some more things. It is necessary for a brand to have a coherent language, this process is evolutionary, if not result earns a name not as a carpet company, but as one with solutions for decoration. The costs of advertising and marketing will be much smaller as we will adding new products , because people realize that the brand is not only carpets, is decorating . Ultimately, if I can dream, I would say we were there for us.

LN: We are currently producing for some reputable brands of furniture carpets naturally white label. Ideally, is us as a brand with its own line creating this furniture , as we have a much wider range than they , that have a specific offer. Raising the tip of the veil of the products we are interested is coffee tables , as it is a product that is not connected to another decorative piece is easily added to a brand that has carpets, because it underlines the line , then it would be the couch which is a very natural connection and it is done very quickly . It is only a question of space for a decision and soon begins to make a collection.

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