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The prince of st. joseph

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The fort of St. Joseph in Funchal is a legal mistake in the words of Don Renato who decided to take advantage of the error and create a micro state in the Atlantic. An eccentricity that was only possible thanks to the Portuguese state, which in the last century, decided to sell this small territory in order to raise money. Now, imagine if they won the euro millions. Would you buy that rock? Come meet the owner of the principality of Pontinha.

What led you to buy this particular location?
Renato Barros: I bought the territory accidentally. Met one day the previous owners and decided to acquire the Fort St. Joseph at the time they called me crazy, after 12 years, I continue to be crazy because I won't sell the island.


At the time how much did it cost?
RB: It cost 45 000 euros, there are cars more expensive than my country.
In others interviews you declared more than once that the principality would have multiple poles of attraction, including a marina, I see that nothing happened.
RB: Portugal has 800 years of history and still has not found an economic course. My kingdom has only two years, see the time that I have to be at the same level as Portugal. In fact, I think that the Portuguese are not going to be extinct as a nation, but they will be subordinates of another superpower, because it has nothing. I tell foreigners that Portugal has three things, Cristiano Ronaldo in Spain, bananas, but they don't produce the fertilizer and sun. Furthermore, Portugal has nothing, apart from politicians who manage to hide the money well and some charm. I would not say that is a layer of rascals, because the Portuguese population is not scoundrels, but unfortunately most of the lot that rules them, here next to my island, is.


Is not it a contradiction to criticize the Portuguese, when you work in Portugal?
RB: Not at all, I am an emigrant. It is nonsense, ma'am, if I live on my island, if I destroy these relics, would ruin a part of the island's history. Do not forget it was there that occur the first f... of the Atlantic. All this happened on my island. Zarco and his wife when they came to colonize Madeira were staying there; this was the chosen ground according to the history of the discoveries.

But there is evidence to corroborate the stories of these events?
RB: Yes, they were the first in Machico, where no one knows where for sure and Funchal. They did not know whether there were lions or elephants, or Alberto Joao, so they stay in my island and it is proved that fact in the history of Portugal.


What is the future of the principality?
RB: The future does not worry me. Note this is just a dream of a man who wanted to create a country and I'm not thinking for now of doing my part of the 800 years of story as Dom Afonso Henriques did. I want to spend my time, as the constitution states and that will decide the future of my country.
It has been recognized by any credible institution at an international level?
RB: It has been recognized by the largest institution that exists in the world, which is my constitution. I acknowledge myself as a Prince. From here on is worth what is worth. Let me give you an example, Guinea was recognized by the United Nations as independent and the Portuguese were still on charge. It took a coup for them to leave. So this is what is at stake power and war. They want me to be violent, to be able to say that I am a terrorist, but I am peaceful. I was in the military Portuguese army only for twenty minutes. I am a peaceful person completely. It would also be a crime that to be recognized as a country I have to live there. Had a lot of hatred to destroy everything, when you can have a home anywhere in the world. It has a number of relics that are being targeted for restoration, I am speaking of the archeological finding that were never been examined by experts before. It would be a crime to pour cement at a place that has lots of history.

What are these historical relics that you speech about?
RB: In the mortar for example and the University of Aveiro is doing a geological survey in this regard. Indeed, excavations are taking place is the first fort to be dug, not in Portugal, because it's not a Portuguese territory, but in the Atlantic and has been duly accredited by archaeologists, who discovered traces of the English occupation. We also found remains of pottery and glass from a craft workshop, bone buttons, beads and fish vertebrae necklaces, pipes, a crucible for casting bullets, projectiles of metal and stone, which in itself justify the opening of a museum.

I know you have guided tours.
RB: They have average 15 people per institution at first they were afraid because the Portuguese government tries to hide that location, the locals do not know anything about that story.


But why would they hide that fact?
RB: They hide because it's a legal error, because it is not Portuguese. The state sold the possession and mastery. It is a legal terminology of the period of discovery. A person has possession of its apartment, but doesn't have its domain, that is hold by the Portuguese State. In that case, Portugal sold the possession and dominion that means what? I can do whatever I want; I can make a tea house or a restaurant. Renato Barros, because of the attitude of regional government decided based on the charter that is in London to create a state and no one can prevent me from doing so. A person residing in an apartment cannot create a state at its residence, because he has not the prerogative of international law and I have this surplus value. Portugal has 11 million people and to date no Portuguese ruler came to blame my attitude. Is not that odd?
Maybe they don't take you seriously?
RB: I am a public official in Portugal, should have a disciplinary process because I was crazy, which is something I'm not.


Why did you decide to create a state? To draw attention?
RB: No, I decided to create a state because it was my will. People still are not aware of one thing, that although they think I'm crazy, I have a document. I'm not the type of person who shouts to make an impression I do it to say that the island is mine.


But who calls crazy?
RB: I'm crazy and who is not, does not live. Life is a healthy craziness, note that I do not offend anyone. I do it all alone and Dom Afonso Henrique did too and he was not insane in fact even he had a statue after his death. Now there are 11 million Portuguese and Portugal in past, such a small country divided the world in half.

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