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The interpreter of the heavenly aerophones

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João Vaz is one of the major national organists. His passion for organ began at an early age when he heard play this instrument for the first time in a church. It is currently an organ professor at the Lisbon Music School and permanent consultant for the restoration of the set of six organs of the Mafra Basilica. It is also organist at the Church of Our Lady of Fatima, in Lisbon, since 1986 and was appointed in 1997, holder of the historic organ of the Monastery of São Vicente de Fora.

As one of the great Portuguese organists, note differences between the different organs?
João Vaz: Yes, there is never two equal organs, each one is different. Speaking in the specific case of Madeira, there was a guided tour, in Funchal, where I could enjoy the organ of the convent of Santa Clara, which is the oldest in the city, is an instrument of the eighteenth century and another of the College church, built there less than 10 years, the differences between them are vast and it was possible to show that the people who were with us, if we let these two aside and we approach the Funchal Cathedral is yet another completely different reality, the organ is not an instrument of mono sound, it has a multitude of different instruments.

What is an organist does when it comes to a place and will play an organ that does not know? What are the challenges you face?
JV: You have to know, first, how is the organ, will receive information about the instrument because the repertoire that you play in one is not the same on another. We noticed the disposal and the number of the program of technical specifications, but until open the keyboard there are always surprises, just when we played the keys discovered a number of new things, inclusive in terms of sound, only with much practice is that the person has this ability to adapt to the instruments, but the differences are sometimes even very large. Even though much information about the instrument there are many factors that a musician only realizes when it comes to standing there and really play.

Let us approach the instruments of Mafra Basilica, the six organs when you had access to these instruments and played them for the first time had some surprises?
JV: Surprises cannot say that I had because I know the basilica of Mafra for more than 20 years, I followed the whole process, the history of each one of the organs, the ten years since the restoration lasted and it was I who prepared the inaugural concert with the choir, I was surprised when I heard the six playing while low, was an unforgettable experience. As I was always involved in the whole process, was always playing, me and five other musicians, when I heard in the audience there was a special surprise, raved with the sound of six organs playing at the same time, you know, Mafra was a single case in the world in its time, and still is, then there was no more place where you build six organs to the same church. It is still a rare event.

In the process of restoration, it was found that the fact that we are a poor country in a way contributes to "prevent" the renewal of the organs more to the taste of later times.
JV: There was no time (laughs)

Because there was no money, so they did not "improve" the instruments and so it was possible to recover them almost all its original parts.
JV: Exactly according to the original instrument identity.

But this only happened to some organs, in this case of Mafra, but can also be said for the other such instruments at national level?
JV: Most organs in Portugal has not undergone transformations in the nineteenth century. In Madeira this happened, there was a nineteenth century of music here, because there was a great English influence, it turns out that on the island there were several religious temples which have been endowed with organs that time, the church of St. Martin, St. Peter and the local Church in Porto da Cruz, are all English instruments of the nineteenth century and it became the ideal sound, so little by little, the oldest instruments that still survived were transformed to approach this nineteenth-century sound of the English organs, was the case of the Santa Clara instrument in Funchal and in the Machico Matrix Church and then yes, in the restauration was necessary to remove the additions, to try to reverse the instrument to its original form. In the case of the mainland, what happened is that most of the organs were speechless for a century and a half, and we find them just like they were.

In the Azores happened the same?
JV: It's a completely different situation, the Azores has a curious thing, is the only place in the country where organ builders continued to be after 1934. I do not know if the laws of liberalism came more slowly, what I know is that there remains organs built in the archipelago in the nineteenth century, after 1850, just as was done in Lisbon fifty years earlier. It is the only place in the country where there was organ artisans after liberalism, as if it were an extension of the old regime before the liberals.

And it's an activity which continued until when?
JV: Until the early twentieth century, but these islands organs are quite in its original state.

And there are many musicians who write for organs in Portugal now?
JV: No, there was that time in the nineteenth century, but nowadays there are some but not many composers that write for the organ.

And how this teaching organ music in our country?
JV: It has been growing over the years, there is great interest among young people in relation to the organ, we even have some organists of great quality.

How are they seen the Portuguese composers for organ abroad?
JV: I'll tell you something, I had to study music in several countries, especially Bach, German music, French and some Portuguese compositions. When I started ten years or more to play I realize abroad that foreigners wanted to hear Portuguese music, I gradually introduce it in my repertoire and now is even more present, because it was something that aroused a huge public interest. I now have mostly a Portuguese program, because it really in all the places where I played curiosity is huge, people tell me that they really like it and even the organists ask me scores because they want to play it well, the foreigners look with great appreciation at Portuguese music for organ and the organists themselves who come to Portugal play are fascinated by the heritage we have in this area. In the specific case of Madeira, I want to show my appreciation not only for the quality of the organ festival, whose organization must say it is excellent, flawless, rare times I've been involved with such an efficient group, all organized, the printed program without errors and the all the instruments such access to very old organs and in good condition and all this also arouses much interest from foreign musicians to come to Portugal to play.

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